Writers
Talking:
Gillian
Kendall
interview
by Jordan Clary | April
2007
Photo
of Gillian Kendall hiking in Fern Tree Gully, south of Melbourne.
Gillian
Kendall is a freelance writer currently living in Australia. She
is the author of two books both published by The University of Wisconsin
Press, How I Became a Human Being which she co-wrote with Mark
O'Brien and Mr.Ding's Chicken Feet published in September, 2006.
She is a regular contributor to The Sun and has published essays
or fiction in a number of other periodicals including Curve, Girlfriends,
and SurfMetro.
I first read
Gillian Kendall's work in The Sun magazine and was taken by her
wry humour combined with sometimes painful topics. I later met her at
one of The Sun retreats where her encouragement on one of my essays
helped me to take my own writing more seriously. Since then I've followed
her work and enjoyed her recently published book, Mr. Ding's Chicken
Feet. We caught up recently on the phone for this interview, which
I then followed up through e-mail.
Jordan:
Where have you traveled and how has this traveling inspired your writing?
Gillian:
I've traveled a lot, sometimes I think too much. We moved a lot when I
was growing up. I was the only American in my family - everyone else English
and Australian. I've lived in five countries - Australia, Germany, Egypt,
England and the U.S. and seven or eight states. In between I traveled,
teaching or on vacation, around the world. I've also worked on navy ships
as a civilian college teacher.
Jordan:
Why did your family move around so much?
Gillian:
My father was a doctor. We just seemed to move a lot, and as an adult
I've kept up the tradition. For generations, my family has been prone
to making these vast changes often. And I've always been open to jobs
overseas.
Jordan:
How did this affect you?
Gillian:
As a child it was awful. Moving is really hard on kids, especially when
they are teenagers. One of the things that helped is that I loved the
children's book, Harriet the Spy - a great children's book. Harriet
wants to be a writer when she grows up and her governess tells her that
it's important to see a lot of different people and how they live so that
when she grows up, she'll know how she wants to live. I think I took those
words to heart, so even though it was hard I told myself that it would
be good for my writing.
Jordan:
So did you start writing when you were a child?
Gillian:
I've always written. In second grade, when my teacher praised a poem that
I wrote I told her I was going to get it published.
Jordan:
What writers have influenced you?
Gillian:
Bill Bryson, Larry McMurtry, Garrison Keillor - all are good story tellers.
They make me laugh, and they make me want to tell stories. There's something
about hearing a good story that makes people want to tell one of their
own. I, of course, really support women writers and there are many that
I love, but I think it's these three men who have really inspired me to
write.
Jordan:
Mr. Ding's Chicken Feet would be considered a cross between
a travel narrative and literary non fiction. What other types of writing
do you do?
Gillian:
I also write short stories, essays, interviews and freelance journalism.
I have done articles about travel, women's issues, parenting, education,
food, and the environment. Right now I'm writing about airplane emissions
offset programs, and about the north shore of Hawaii.
Jordan:
Food seemed to be a significant part of Mr. Ding's Chicken Feet.
Gillian:
I didn't realize till after I wrote it and people started mentioning it
to me what a big part food played that book. From what I saw in the microcosm
on the ship, food is such a big, important part of the Chinese culture.
It's also very important to people on long ship journeys, for obvious
reasons. I have a theory that tolerance and real multi-culturalism happen
almost entirely through food. We learn about a culture first by going
to foreign or "ethnic" restaurants and eating their food. When traveling
we meet people over the table and share meals with them. Or it's a great
coup, if you're traveling in another country, to be invited to a local
person's house for food.
Jordan:
What is your favorite Chinese food?
Gillian:
Hot and sour soup, but now I'm a vegetarian I can't always get it in restaurants.
When I got off the ship, incidentally, I found using a knife and fork
again to be very awkward - I love chopsticks now!
Jordan:
Have you ever heard from any of the sailors that you wrote about?
Gillian:
Unfortunately, no. I miss them and dream that I will hear from them again.
Jordan:
What was the process of getting Mr. Ding's Chicken Feet published?
Gillian:
I knew the press and the editor from my previous book, How I Became
a Human Being, which I co-wrote with Mark O'Brien. After working with
me on that book, the editor asked if I'd be interested in reviewing some
manuscripts for the press. Of course I was - I love doing that work -
and one of the books I read was about China. I thought that my own book
about China (then in manuscript form) was nearly as good as that one,
and so I asked the editor to take a look at my manuscript. At that point
the manuscript for Ding was some five or six years old.
The University
of Wisconsin Press editor looked at it, sent it out for review, and came
back and told me it needed substantial revision. He wanted it to have
a personal element that was otherwise lacking. That's when I added in
the part about realizing I was gay while on that ship. Before, there was
no mention of that nor much mention of my existing, het relationship.
After I added that element, UWP took the book. However, it was three or
four years between the contract and the publication, so I was thrilled
when it finally came out last September (2006). It'd been, at that point,
some 15 years since the event that I wrote the book about teaching on
the ship. So it's been weird to revisit that time in my life from this
vantage point. Everyone who reads the book and wants to talk about it,
of course, thinks of it as fresh information and a recent event, but to
me it's so long ago I can hardly remember a thing other than what is in
the book. But the book does a good job of reminding me what it was like.
Jordan:
Can you tell me about your first 'break' in writing?
Gillian:
The first time I got really positive attention was reading at an open
mike in college. I read a short account of something that happened to
me in Spain. It was about being alienated in a strange country and actually
being attacked after a misunderstanding. It was well received, and I got
good response from the audience - gasps at the appropriate moments and
all. I put it together right then that people liked drama and foreign
countries. That enthusiasm was a positive response and I knew that I wanted
to do more.
Jordan:
Did you publish that piece?
Gillian:
In the college literary magazine.
Jordan:
What are you working on now?
Gillian:
The truth is, and I have just admitted this for the first time yesterday,
I am quite bored with the book I am currently revising. It's about working
at Victorian Parliament, and it's quite different from Ding - not
nearly as funny or personal. It's more sort of academic and abstract,
being a lot about language and personality. The title, which may be the
best thing about it, is Notes from the Strangers' Corridor: A Memoir
of Editing, Insomnia, and Minor Mental Illness. Some parts of the
book stand out and hold my interest; others just leave me cold. But my
plan is to finish this draft and then send it to the UWP editor. I am
hoping that he will once again be able to tell me what the book needs
to make it publishable.
Then, when
that's done, I want to write a great novel full of emotions and amazing
insights, all expressed in beautiful language, in the vein of Ian McKuen's
work. Wish me luck!
Jordan:
Do you keep a journal?
Gillian:
I used to. I have journals by my bed. These days I write a lot of emails
and real, paper letters, and they seem to keep the accounts of my daily
life.
Jordan:
What direction do you see yourself moving in?
Gillian:
I want to keep writing almost every day, as I do now. I'd like to do more
travel writing. I'd like to sell the movie options for Mr. Ding.
My friends and my film agent have suggested Renee Zellweger or Drew Barrymore
playing me, which is funny, but apt, I think. And I'd like to be more
involved with Esalen. It's one of my favorite places on earth. I'd love
to teach one of their month-long classes.
Jordan:
What advice would you give to someone wanting to write a book?
Gillian:
Read The Sun magazine. Go in a room and shut the door, and be quiet
- until you know what you want to write about. Look deeper and deeper
inside and don't listen to what other people think you should write about.
Jordan:
Can you tell me a little about your workshop?
Gillian:
The workshops are amazing for me, and the people who have taken them
have said they've been terrifically helpful and enjoyable. It basically
feels like a bunch of very smart, creative people who get energized from
each other and from the exercises and suggestions that I provide. It's
very hands-on, lots of writing in distinct styles and systems, and the
results are profound and beautiful. Last time we gave a reading to which
a lot of the Esalen community came, and it was one of the best readings
I've ever attended; every person had written work that was soulful, intense,
and in many cases very, very funny. I can remember laughing so hard, during
one of those workshops, that I was curled up fetal on the floor. Other
times we were all crying or just very moved by what someone had written
and shared.
Some of the
group from my last weeklong workshop, Writing With Passion, has
formed an ongoing online community, and we exchange work, gossip, and
ideas. We commiserate with each other's rejections and celebrate great
successes - one of us just got a Penguin book contract! Lately we've been
saying we feel a little like a single, ever-shifting, ever changing entity
or personality, a conglomerate of friends and writers ... it's really
a community even though we've only been together once in person.
Jordan:
What are some of the rewards of a writing career?
Gillian:
I think self-expression is the greatest reward, but also being heard and
being listened to. It's extremely rewarding to hear from people or meet
people who have read my work and been affected by it. It's also very satisfying
to re-read something I've written and feel happy about it, although that
happens very rarely, maybe once or twice a year. Another reward is emotional
balance. If I don't write, it's bad for my psyche
Jordan:
What inspires you?
Gillian:
It's usually a mood. Often what makes me want to write a story is
that someone else tells a story that inspires something else. People who
can tell a good story always inspire me. My mother was a great story-teller.
Sometimes I'm sort of inspired by a sense of loss - someone said all fiction
is basically about loss. And that sort of goes with traveling. You gain
a lot but you lose a lot too, especially people. Esalen, in Big Sur, inspires
me more than any other place on earth.
Jordan:
What is your favorite colour?
Gillian:
Hard to say. Maybe fuschia. Maybe indigo blue.
Jordan:
Since you now live in Australia, what is the one thing that should not
be missed by someone visiting the country?
Gillian:
The Mornington Peninsula, south of Melbourne, is my favorite part of Australia
so far, but I haven't been to Uluru or the west or north yet! The Mornington
Peninsula features two completely different kinds of beaches, only a few
minutes from each other - the safe, shallow, toddler-friendly "front"
beaches, and the wild, rock-pooly, freezing cold beaches facing Antarctica.
You can tell which ones I like best! And after the beach, head to the
Peninsula Hot Springs for a soak.
Check the
Esalen web site for
workshop information.
 Mr.
Ding's Chicken Feet: On a Slow Boat from Shanghai to Texas ,
by Gillian Kendall
After accepting
a job teaching English on a small engineering vessel traveling from Shanghai
to Texas, Gillian Kendall embarks on a strange journey with no ports of
call but exotic emotional landscapes. She is the only female aboard, surrounded
by Chinese men. The cosmopolitan graduate student suddenly has to adjust
to an alien world, thick with cigarette smoke, unusual sea creatures,
and male sexuality. Kendall invites readers to travel with her across
cultural divides as deep and mysterious as the Pacific while she explores
her own culture, orientation, and heart. - book description
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